Podcast Episodes

Tango dancer Valeria Solomonoff and Sharna Fabiano on why following takes agency, how gender stereotypes shaped tango, and what teaching beginners reveals.

Opera stage manager Tilla Foljanty on switching between leading and following backstage, building safe spaces for singers, and what tango taught her.

Laurie Ann Greenberg and Blaise Barshaw on making decisions as two artists, turning a liquor board’s no into a yes, and trading lead and follow at home.

Researcher Ruth Sims on followership at work: why leading and following are behaviours rather than roles, and why followers hold more power than we think.

Coach trainer Amy Lombardo on guiding clients without taking over: holding space, naming shared intention, and the power of a leader saying “I don’t know.”

Jonathan Han on what decades of martial arts training teach about staying calm in conflict, setting boundaries, and leading with restraint, not force.

Ryan Moody, a hydrogen fuel cell engineer, on why followership takes consent, how listening reshapes allyship, and what slowing down makes possible.

Alain de Sales explains the toxic triangle, courageous followership and the seven steps employees can use to interrupt destructive leadership at work.

Dr. Lewis Steinhoff on why leaders’ power stops where followers’ acceptance ends, from nuclear program management to North Korea negotiations.

Brian Rook on training employees in followership skills — renaming a course to win buy-in, alienated followers, and his Letters to Leaders program.